Monday, January 9, 2012

Burger--Replicating Milgram

Okay, here is the link to Burger's replication of Milgram. Were you surprised at the similarity in results of the two experiments, even though they are separated by nearly half a century? Think of the events that have occurred since 1961-63. Haven't those events changed our response to authority?

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  1. And, by the way, this is Burger's report on his replication in its entirety (this was pointed out by an astute student who noticed that the text is over 40 pages...oops). Our textbook's version is abbreviated quite a bit, so if you're reading the online version, feel free to skim parts of it.

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  2. Obviously a lot of people thought that the results would be a lot different in Burgers experiment just because of the time span difference. Thinking that with everything that had happened in the world that "there was no way today's people would give into authority the same way they did with Milgrams original experiment." I found it interesting and surprising, as did a lot of others that even in today's society the results were very similar to the results previously recorded. I feel that it proved that even though we like to think that mindsets have changed there seems to be something in us that is susceptible to authoritative figures, whether it be for good or bad unfortunately.

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  3. Lorin T
    Lorin Tout Feb 2
    I wasnt surprised by the results being so similar.I think that humans from an early age are taught to obey your elders. I think that if Milgram had put the "experimenter" in "average joe" clothes then the results would be extremely different, but because he was dressed as an authority figure people listened and continued the shock. In Bergers experiment even though it was many years later, the results were still way similar. No matter what people jjust tend to listen to elder or authority figures.

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    1. That makes sense because people feel the need to impress a higher figure. I also agree that it would be different if the experimenter was an average joe because no one feels the need to question or impress just some guy. you would feel higher than just an average joe and wouldn't feel the need to listen to them.

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    2. Robert K.
      I definitely agree with you both that it would affect the results, I question how large of an affect. based on how we were surprised as a whole by the initial results i'd be reluctant to guess the results.

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  4. I agree with Tim with what he posted because he says "there is no way today's people would give into authority the same way they did with Milgrams orginal experiment" but clearly in today's society people actually did and I thought that was a shocking for me to actually see that the results were very similar. It was very interesting to read and see how simialr both experiments are very alike today and back then.

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    1. Do you think think if it was done multiple times after milgram it would have similar effect?

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  5. Kaitlyn Carlson
    I was not really shocked to see such simularity with the results in both Burger and Milgram's experirments. I think that now a days people will still obey authority figures , because its what we are tought from a little age.Does anyone aggre?

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    1. Yeah I totally think that how we're raised plays a big role in how much we obey. My dad was Special Forces in the army for 25 years and I know I'm absolutely an obedient person! Haha.

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  6. I also wasn't too surprised to find the results so similar. I think that people are more alike than we think, even down through generations. What do you think? Has the human race changed dramatically over history?

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    1. roman v
      i think the reason why our morals dont really change generation to generation is because in a way its all the same. My fathers father taught him to act a certain way and my father has passed that down to me with a few tweeks but in the end i feel like the message is still the same. That is why i dont think that certian moral standards will ever change

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    2. I think we have in a lot of ways. Like with black rights and women rights. However we apparently have not changed obeying strangers! Interesting.

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  7. Both experiments did not suprise me in the results. I feel that just because certain events happened between that time is irrelevant. This is a study of how people are and in my opinion will always be. Do you think if they did the study again 50 years from now they'd still get the same results?

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    1. roman v
      i think that you might actually see an increase in fifty years, its begining to be a cut-throat world out there and i think that if a person got paid to actually flip the switch the results would skyrocket

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  8. Robert K.
    i think that there are a lot of variables that came into play in these experiments and some may have had a large affect on the results but i believe that if it came to just the authority part then we would get the same results.

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  9. roman v
    do you think that the replication of milgrams experiment was as contreversial and as looked down on by society?

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  10. How do you guys think future generations will respond to replications of this experiment? Are we growing less obedient?

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    1. I think it would have less of an effect because now we all know the experiment, but it could have if someone tried a different method of it!

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  11. If there was a new method or way to do this experiment again what do we think it would be like?

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